I am not sure how it is about legitimacy of Pakistan? Family of Mohamed Gaffar Khan is today running a major political party in Pakistan (Awami National Party - ANP) and is a ruling coalition partner in Pakistan these very days. I am sorry but you seem to imply as if Nehru was coming with very innocent ambitions. If we have to go with the sort of theory you are proposing that Muhammad Ali Jinnah was with a “power aspiration” for himself, then it might be surprising for you that he turned down the offer of becoming “Governor General” of United India in 1947 from Lord Mountbatten. You might wish to read the book by Jaswant Singh, an Indian politician who recently wrote a book on Jinnah detailing how he actually tried to save United India in return for rights guaranteed for Muslims and Nehru and Sardar Patel blew the chance. And please remember that Jinnah was not even a “typical Muslim”, this man was a liberal, secular, Western educated, highly paid lawyer turned politician (Jaswant Singh got kicked out of his party, BJP, for writing the book).
It was not a choice he made based on his personal aspirations, he was a dying man already and he knew that. He made that sacrifice because if you care to read history of British India’s last 150 years you will see mass-marginalization of Muslim community in United India. And without any remorse, yes Pakistan was created to provide a “monopoly” to the Muslims and it wonderfully achieved that.
Afghanistan never gave Pakistan a chance to “care about her”. How can a country care about a neighbour who rejects its existence? Even till today Afghanistan is suffering from its old problem with existence of Pakistan and stops Pakistan from erecting a permanent fence on its border which can actually stop the free movement of Taliban and other anti-state elements. Until only 10 months back the fragile Government of Afghanistan was supporting Indian agenda of destabilizing Pakistan via Balochistan insurgency (on record information showing the leader of Baloch militants living yards from Karzai’s Presidential palace and other detailed intercepts of present Afghani Govt’s collusion with Indian agencies against Pakistan. The information which was shared 10 months back with International partners by Pakistan finally resulting in at least stopping of open support to anti-Pakistani elements). In such an environment of trust deficit what do you expect Mirwais?
When you say Pakistani policy is anti-Indian you exhibit a very obvious Indian bias. If Pakistan has anti-Indian policies it is not more than the anti-Pakistani policies India has. Lets be honest on the facts at least.
Personally I have nothing against ordinary Afghanis. Sadly they are kept out of any democratic process and have been unfortunately victim of world power plays, first the British, then the Soviets and now American and her allies. But in all this lets not forget that Afghanis themselves are to be blamed for all the troubles too. They have shaped the country in a manner where the soil has not seen peace for centuries! For last so many centuries Afghans have failed to keep themselves united. Even today you have a new demon in making by marginalizing the largest ethnic group in their own home, which if goes unchecked will actually explode into another more violent situation.
No one will be more happy than me if today sustainable peace returns to Afghanistan and its people, but truth of the matter is that apart from what the world has done to Afghanistan, it has suffered from its own people the most.
Liquidating Taliban: How do you liquidate an ideology?
In the end I really appreciate your reply, I hope we can continue to have a mutually informative and beneficial dialogue on these and other matters.
Hey man, I know all this statistics, you dont have to explain me, the question is about the legitimacy of your country. In 1947 Gandhi, Mohamed Gaffar Khan and Nehru has offered Jinnah, to be a clean muslim province, but dont leave the community of the subcontinent of India. Jinnah could have been the PM of India, but he rejected it, and with this decision the political instability had been gone highly risky.
Pakistan never cared about Afghanistan, do not tell me about this solidarity, your country always has anti-India policy, and Pakistan always will be in the press by India, I hope. But unfortunately, you never gonna be a failed state, coz the national intelligence service, the ISI has the right connections with all the powerful governments.
My anti-Pakistan view is not against u man, its like Israel. I do respect jewish people, but as muslim (alhamdulillah) I cant accept the zionist and the religion-centered ideology and policy. There are two countries in the world, which has organized on religion, and I hope Pakistan dont wanna increase the tensions in the area.
The Taliban: if u are a peacefully nation and your government always fights for peace (is like fucking for the virginity, hahaha), why dont they liquidate them?
Thank you for follow, reblog and also your comments about Pakistan.
Just few statistics for you.
By 1988 over 3.3 Million Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan.
By 2001 over 5 Million Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan.
With all attempts by Pakistani Government to send them back to Afghanistan, over 2 Million registered Afghan refugees still live in Pakistan, with millions more unregistered.
All this has caused a major repeated stress on Pakistani economy and resources from time to time.
No wonder it looks bad that Pakistan has always been trying to intervene in Afghanistan in one way or another, but it must be remembered that Afghanistan was the only country in 1947 which tried to block Pakistan’s entry in the United Nations. Also it openly attacked Pakistan on several instances including the most notorious one in 1960s when Afghan Army attacked Bajur Agency. Attack was repelled, Pakistani Government sealed the border with Afghanistan, causing the first major economic shut-down of Afghanistan since the produce was supposed to be shipped out by then. It even resulted in King Zahir Shah removing the PM Dawood for the misadventure but things had gone pretty far by then. Rest is a spiral downward history for Afghanistan.
But for Pakistan Afghanistan has always been a problem when it first became a Soviet proxy against Pakistan and then later and now once again recently has become an Indian proxy against Pakistan.
Pretty simple and brutal Global Politics.
On people level, Pakistani Pakhtoons and Afghani Pakhtoons share a common ethnic bond. Since the Western occupation of Afghanistan, Pakhtoons in Afghanistan are eyed as “Taliban” and minority ethnicities are at the moment effectively ruling the country, causing more rifts within your country and collusion with some elements on Pakistani side. Once again pretty simple and brutal ethnic politics and nationalism.
At the end of November Saudi Arabia’s second largest city, Jeddah, was hit by heavy floods, blamed on poor infrastructure and mismanagement of city works construction. Many lives were lost, and even more people would have died had it not been for acts of heroism such as that of Pakistani Farman Ali Khan.
Nowadays, all one hears in news bulletins is how a bomber in Pakistan claims _ _ number of lives. Here is another Pakistani. He is from Swat as well, the region racked by violence. He has 14 lives to his name. Only, he didn’t hurt anyone, he saved them. Working in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, during the recent floods, he saved 14 strangers and died trying to save the 15th. His name is Farman Ali Khan.
Eman Al Nafjan at Saudiwoman’s Weblog gives the full story:
Black Wednesday is what many people have been calling 25th of November when Jeddah got its heaviest rains that resulted in flooding and the death of over 120 people. Videos, photos and articles on the flooding and the damage are aplenty online, but one story I believe has not got its due attention. Farman Ali Khan was a 32 year old Pakistani migrant worker at a grocery store in Jeddah. In his six years in Saudi Arabia, he had only been able to visit his family back home twice. His youngest Jarira, 4 years old, has never seen her daddy alive. This man who had every reason to save himself, as he is his family’s sole provider and yet he set out that day to save as many people as he could.
Farman Ali Khan saved 14 people from drowning. His neighbor told reporters that Farman gave him his wallet and cell phone for safekeeping. He then tied one end of a rope to a pipe and the other around his waist and stood at the edge of the heart of the flooding looking for people to pull out. Those he couldn’t reach swimming and wading, he would reach to them with a wood pole. He kept going back until the water got the better of him and he went under.
Farman left behind his wife and three daughters, Zubaida, 7, Madeeha, 6, and Jarira, 4.